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Re: Prolactin after orgasm in women?

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Prior to this topic coming up, I hadn't looked into female refractory period's relationship to prolactin and only looked into it with males. It does appear that it plays a part in both sexes. As with many things, there are lots of biochemical factors (e.g. somatostatin) involved, so there is always at least some danger in trying to boil it down to one factor. Also, and again as with many other things, females generally show a wider distribution of responses than males.

Beyond that, the only thing I have to contribute on this thread is to point out that arousal loss and inability to get a second O are two separate things and should be treated as such. @SC's physical response appears similar to mine and most men's. Zelda similarly is limited to just one O many times (though not always). However, her response is different in that she only gets one O because of clitoral hypersensitivity or mental fatigue. Post-O, she is still very much aroused and often enjoys sex more than she did pre-O (she describes it as dropping back to a plateau of 70-90% of O-level arousal). That's definitely different than what @SC is reporting, and I think I've seen both described by women here and elsewhere. Definitely worth the distinction, and I often call "one and done" and the other "one and completely done".

One final note--I've seen on another site (which has way too much questionable content to link to here) that one way to potentially get around this (that works for some) is to make the woman's O as least-clitoral as possible. This can include using other forms of stimulation as well as just simply stopping clitoral stimulation right before the O or as soon as it begins. I'm sure everyone is different, so of course YMMV.

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@Scott, thanks for the distinction. That may be useful for me to clarify in the future.

With the "getting around"....I have been giving this some thought. Before introducing a bullet vibe, a good portion of my orgasms were not what I believe is classified as "clitoral orgasms" (direct clitoral stimulation), they were more vaginal/uterine orgasms with an indirect clitoral stimulation. And I had the same response.

Honestly, I don't see this as something I need to "fix", I just like to have a better understanding of myself and how I tick. We have learned what works for us, such as "she comes first" does NOT, and we do more edging or a little of orgasm denial until we are ready for the finale.
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Thanks, @Scott, for your research again! I am finding this discussion interesting and I hope to hear more yet!

@SeekingChange, we learned years ago, on our own, that "she comes first", doesn't work well for us, either. We changed it to "we come together" and its much better for both!
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@Ron and other commenters under his answer (I'm not leaving a comment because I realize it likely wouldn't be seen.) ... I agree that masturbation can keep a man from pursuing his wife and keep him from facing difficult sexual challenges in the marriage head-on.  We experienced that first hand in our earlier years of marriage.  It's a regret of my husband's.   But,  I also know that some of us wives need a little respite from sexual pursuit :)  and masturbation can be a win-win in that.
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Re: Prolactin after orgasm in women?

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This is true and some marriage counselors even recommend it.  What I recommend is only do it with your partner, if they are too tired or not interested, then I think there are times masturbation is ok. Just doing it without your partners knowledge is the problem.

As a wife, would you rather your husband do it occasionally to relief is sexual tension and not ask you or tell you he is going to do it? That way, you wouldn't have any involvement at all. Just curious.
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No, I don't want him to tell me or ask.  He has blanket permission to do it, and he pretty much knows when we will be having sex (or not), so he knows when he can hold off, and when he really can't.
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@SC said: "But,  I also know that some of us wives need a little respite from sexual pursuit ;-)  and masturbation can be a win-win in that."

I think that works for many people. One caveat though--at least for me, I would want it to be in Zelda's presence, even if she's not directly involved. It's just too easy for my mind to wander without that anchor. The flesh is weak.

Also, and maybe it's silly, but something like that (a quick M in her presence) every once in a while is a good reminder just how much better the experience is when it's a full foreplay/PIV/cuddling in the afterglow session. :-)

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I get why that is your preference.  Thankfully, my husband does well with keeping his mind on us.  Because of that, my personal preference is for him to not do it in my presence (although he does at times, and I don't stop him, I am willing to let him do what he needs).  I, too easily, can pick up a feeling of responsibility from it, and in those times of respite, I not only need a physical sexual respite, but also a respite from the emotional/mental "responsibility" burden that happens.  I want to be able to lay down that side of sexual "responsibility" as well.
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I figured that might be true for you but did want to point out the other side of it. :-)

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