What does this mean?

Low testosterone issues, impacts on health & marriage, treatments, etc.
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What does this mean?

Postby bigloop » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:17 am

I was reading an article on WebMD about low to mod testosterone in men and as I was going down the list of symptoms, I can honestly say I have experience all of them except ED and less facial hair. Should I get blood test or just get off my butt and exercise? WAIT! I know your answer. The problem is I have absolutely no motivation to do anything. I used to enjoy biking but I can't get up for it. Don't know if it's just gotten boring or if there is something there to look into. One thing that really caught my attention was the "feeling of not wanting to do anything nor knowing what to do." My buddy and I were lamenting this very thing to each other for lunch yesterday before I read the article last night. I don't have the old passions for life I once felt. The feeling of just existing is growing. I don't like it. I thought it was mainly due to stresses of growing children and job. Maybe there more to it?

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Postby SquarePants » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:52 am

There's one way to find out. Get the blood test and you can stop wondering. At the very least, you'll have a historical record of your levels at this age. Later, you can check again and see if they've dropped.

When my levels were low, I wasn't having any ED or libido problems or missing facial hair. However, doing anything that required physical exertion took a huge amount of effort. Even though I had no ED problems, the early morning erections had completely gone. I guess that their disappearance was gradual, since I didn't notice their disappearance. However, as soon as I started therapy, they quickly returned.

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Postby doug-h » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:55 am

Been struggling with this very thing lately. There are things in my past that I really enjoyed, but with a move a couple of years ago, new job, and a thousand other distractions, I have really neglected the things I used to really enjoy.

I had an invitation to go mountain biking just last night, and it has really got my blood pumping, and I am looking forward to seeing if my tired old bones are still up to it.

As to why it happens that we let things get away from us..... Complacency, Changing or misplaced priority, Busyness would be the top three on my list, but I can't rule out just getting older and possibly being afraid that since I won't be as good at them as I used to be that I won't enjoy them. Certainly, medical issues are equally possible, in my case, but mostly arthritis and orthopedic issues. Low-T could be an issue, as I don't have the energy I once had. I used to have to burn insane amounts of energy just to maintain some sort of normalcy, but that energy and that drive is subsided to a large degree.

Get on your bike and see if some of your energy doesn't return. I'm going to. It'll probably put me in the cardiac ward, but it's better than just fizzling out.

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby ghostrider » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:00 am

I noticed there are T boosting pills next the to Protein powders and Pre-workout formula powders at Walmart. Does that stuff work?

I don't think I need it at this point, but its nice to know its there for the future.

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby AlphaMale74 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:38 am

About 4 years ago I tested very low in free blood testosterone. I felt drained all the time, couldn't recuperate from workouts, low appetite, and lower sex drive. I body build so this was a concern for me. I do shift work and night shifts really ding your testosterone. My doctor gave me a prescription for testosterone cypionate and within 6 months I experienced an increase of 15 pounds of solid muscle, high sex drive, more energy, and more assertiveness. I work in a jail so this is very beneficial. Taking test will shut down your natural production and possibly sterilize you. Don't do it unless you're done having kids, otherwise go for it!

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Postby txtwindad » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:16 am

ghostrider wrote:I noticed there are T boosting pills next the to Protein powders and Pre-workout formula powders at Walmart. Does that stuff work?

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby bigloop » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:51 pm

AlphaMale74 wrote: Taking test will shut down your natural production and possibly sterilize you. Don't do it unless you're done having kids, otherwise go for it!


I'm not a body builder. On the contrary, I could stand to lose 30 pounds. And I've been a steer for a long time now....so, no worries there.

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby bigloop » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:54 pm

Is there any benefit to going to an urologist or "man Doctor" to get tested, or would the GP be sufficient?

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby mamame » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:43 pm

Endocrinologists specialize in hormones. That may be a route to consider. I'd start with gp first if your copays are less

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby bigloop » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:20 pm

Endocrinology....oh yeah, I knew that....:-)) is that a symptom of low T?
Unfortunately my DW doesn't do T checks in animals or i'd get her to.

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby ghostrider » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:06 pm

bigloop wrote:Is there any benefit to going to an urologist or "man Doctor" to get tested, or would the GP be sufficient?


Its up to you, but to test T in men, they have to stick this really long needle into your ....


just kidding :)

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Postby Nvr2Late » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:37 am

Any doctor can order the labs for you if they are so inclined. What they will DO with the results is why you want to make certain the doctor you choose is on board with your desire to possibly consider T replacement therapy if it's indicated. There are still a lot of doctors that do not believe in it.

I'd search for an anti-aging doctor in your area. They are typically the ones who have studied up and practice T replacement and all the variables that go with it. And Endo might be a good second choice, but you will want to ask the right questions.
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Re: What does this mean?

Postby bigloop » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:40 pm

My old GP is really old and probably will retire somewhat soon. I am going to try to get in with a new, younger one in my town and I will see what his attitude is about it. At the moment, I would think I would rather avoid replacement therapy if possible. If I test borderline, I would rather pursue natural paths first - exercise, nutrition, etc. The only health issue I currently have is borderline high cholesterol. Heart, sugar, etc are all fine last checkup I had.
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Re: What does this mean?

Postby mom210 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:45 pm

a lot of men are leery about start T therapy and opt to try the "natural " way first.. 99% do not succeed.. just don;t wait to long to fix your problems.. the end results of T replacement , when it is needed are unimaginable.

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Re: What does this mean?

Postby ledgemoor » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:52 pm

I actually would not recommend an endocrinologist. They deal with diabetes & thyroid issues mostly. The problem with either a urologist or endo is that they are likely to tell you that you are "low normal" and don't worry about it -- it is a natural part of aging. Go to a bioidentical Hormone Replacement Therapy doctor. They are calling them life extension specialists now, but same difference. They will want you to have optimum levels, not low normal. Your thyroid needs to be checked too, and they will do that.

Go to a4m.com and click on Directory.

I have heard that you can order tests at a discount thru lef.org. I was turned off by all the suppliments they sell and haven't looked enough to verify that you can order tests. I didn't see any obvious links. Maybe someone else knows the details.

Becoming sterile or your natural testosterone shutting down is not a given. I had a vasectomy, so no issue there. My testicles have not shrunk at all and are probably producing as much or more than before, which isn't saying much. There are ways to medically manage fertility and testicular production if it becomes an issue for you.

Natural stuff you can do: Get plenty of sleep. Take zinc & copper & DIM. Take vitamin D.

L-Citrulline Mallate can improve erection quality, but will not improve testosterone levels. It is GREAT for preventing muscle soreness from cycling btw. That's the main reason I take it.
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Re: What does this mean?

Postby bigloop » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:36 pm

By the numbers:

Free T: 126
HB: 36
Plain T: 669

Thyroid: TSH 1.97
A1C 5.2

All other blood counts, organ functions, etc were normal.

Doc says I need to get checked for sleep apnea.


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