Going to Biote Doctor

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby Hoosier52 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:23 pm

SubQ is what's being touted now. Read the Peak Testosterone site, and after Dr. Crisler (All Things Male) and Dr. Saya (Defy Medical)

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Postby Hoosier52 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:32 pm

Shot #4 this AM went into the upper glute. No pain at all. I'm 2 weeks in any can feel some changes. Read on Defy Medical that's it may take 6 weeks to see bigger results. What's your experience?

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby be64 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:01 pm

I don't remember how long it took to notice a change. I think the sexual part came first.
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Postby ledgemoor » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:36 am

SLIGHT improvement after 4 weeks, noticeable at 6, and pretty good at 8. Slight improvement over the next 6 months or so.
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Postby Hoosier52 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:37 pm

http://www.defymedical.com/resources/he ... ow-effects

Some pretty good info here on how long before your feel the effects of testOster one injections

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby ledgemoor » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:57 am

Thanks for that -- it seems in the ballpark. However, it did not state the administration method used. Creams would be faster, testosterone cypionate would be slower.
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Postby Hoosier52 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:28 am

True. Defy does promote T Cyp injections. I am assuming the chart reflects that. I have completed 2 weeks of TRT and I am beginning to see and feel some good things. Mood is improved and libido is moving up. Tomorrow begins week 3.

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Postby ledgemoor » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:14 pm

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby Hoosier52 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:39 am

Injection #5 done and week 3 begun. I am feeling some changes going on. Primarily mood and libido. The brain fog also seems to be lifting.

Since I can't see my glute after I inject, does the T Cyp ever leak out? If so, would it be enough to be concerned about?

A thank you to those who persuaded me to go with the injections vs. the pellets. There's really nothing to them.

QUESTION: Has anyone tried T Cyp from one of the compounding pharmacies like EMPOWER or ASP?

QUESTION: I'm 64, any need for me to inquire about using HCG?


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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby be64 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:22 am

Generally speaking HCG is cosmetic to keep your testicles from shrinking however Dr. Crisler promotes HCG for other benefits such as a better sense of well being. He says there are LH receptors in the brain and other places that need stimulating.
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Postby ledgemoor » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:27 pm

Yes, I have had trouble with it seeping out when I was doing IM. Injecting slowly and leaving the needle in for 30 seconds after the injection is complete helped. But that Crisler video you posted said to just hold your finger over it :D. I haven't had that happen so far on my three subq shots. Maybe because the hole is smaller and I am putting half as much in it.

I have not tried compounded injections. I have heard of guys using compounded cream instead of the name brands to save money. I know that compounding pharmacies are in business primarily for women, as that is the only way for them to legally get testosterone. The compounding pharmacy buys powdered hormones for about $15/oz., mixes it with cold cream, and end of story. It SHOULD be cheaper to buy a manufactured product than getting something custom, but pharmaceuticals is a big racket. I don't know what would be involved with converting pure testosterone to testosterone cypionate or ethenate. Hey, that might be a legal source for testosterone cypionate.

I haven't taken HCG, and my testicles have not shrunk. BE64, I wasn't aware of other benefits of it, so will explore that. Thanks. As far as testicle size goes, it is PURELY cosmetic? I thought it worked by forcing your testicles to produce in spite of low LH.
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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby be64 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:53 pm

HCG has the effect of stimulating the testicles to produce testosterone. Therefore the use of HCG is not only cosmetic, but the amount produced by the testicles could easily be replaced by injection so the reason why most men use it is cosmetic. Without it my testicles become small and soft and don't hang.
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Postby Hoosier52 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:56 pm

Empower Pharmacy makes compounded TCyp. It think it's about $55

https://empower.pharmacy/drugs/testoste ... ction.html

They also make compounded HCG android other products. One is for DW called "Scream Cream"

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby ledgemoor » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:11 pm

Thanks for the link. Is $55 for 10 ml of 200mg/ml?

They DO have Testosterone Ethenate!

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Postby Hoosier52 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:23 pm

Yes, the price is $55 from what I've read. I believe they also include syringes and alcohol wipes with that.

Excelmale website has lots of info on this. There is another pharmacy, APS, which does the same thing.

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby Hoosier52 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:18 am

Into my 3rd week of injections. I also sarted taking Avena Sativa yesterday. I also took 10mg of cialis. Woke up "surprised" by the results this morning. I think this stuff is working. I'm thinking about starting a every other day regimen of 5mg of cialis. Anyone else doing daily or bi-daily? I don't know if that skews the results of the TCyp or not. Either way, I'm beginning to see some positive results.

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Postby ledgemoor » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:04 am

I've never tried Cialis or any of that type stuff. From what I have read, PDE inhibitors work by interfering with the chemistry that converts nitric oxide into something else, making the nitric oxide you have stay in your system longer. They cannot cause erections, they just make them firmer and last longer. They can work so well that you can get an erection lasting over 4 hours, which is very bad as I'm sure you know.

I am into natural, so there are two symptoms I watch for, and if I am experiencing them, just up my testosterone a bit. If I'm [physically desirous] all the time, I reduce it.

The two symptoms are (1) having semen built up, but going soft before I get over the edge. The second is lackluster morning erections. #1 happens to me first. It is very rare that I don't have good morning wood.

My suggestion is to give the testosterone a couple of months, then evaluate the need for Cialis. My guess is that you won't need or want it :-).
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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby be64 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:35 am

I started using Cialis occasionally and Viagra occasionally before testosterone replacement because of the ED. Neither of them did much good. When I started using testosterone my ED went away but I'm still using 5 mg Cialis daily for urinary symptoms of BPH. The side effect of better erections is a plus.

Something that affects erections also is estradiol. If you're estradiol level is either too high or too low morning erections may go away.

I think an indicator of a good testosterone level and estrogen balance is to have strong morning erections.
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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby Hoosier52 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:53 am

In a couple of weeks, I will get my first blood work done after starting the TRT. I'll find out then where my estradiol is at. I've used Viagra and Cialis for a few years. Some of the guys who are on TRT include a low dose of Cialis in their daily supplement "stack." I thought I'd give it a try but may ditch it just to get a more accurate reading on whether or not the T is working.

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Re: Going to Biote Doctor

Postby be64 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:11 am

I'll add that while before testosterone replacement Viagra and Cialis did almost nothing for me after getting my testosterone level up I can notice a big impact. A dose of Viagra that did almost nothing for me before testosterone will now cause a raging pulsing erection. However I've never had an erection the lasted more than a few minutes without stimulation. My complaint about ED drugs at higher doses is that they give me bloodshot eyes and a headache. 5 mg Cialis daily doesn't seem to cause these effects.

I concur that if you don't need Cialis or Viagra you shouldn't use them but since they help my BPH symptoms and erections I figure it's worthwhile.
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