Sub Q or IM

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Sub Q or IM

Postby ophelia » Thu May 26, 2016 2:42 pm

I guess we are still figuring this out. DH had T levels above 1000 six months ago. Since then I have switched from IM to sub q injections twice a week. His latest T level is 550. Not optimal in my opinion and I have noticed that he has slowed down quite a bit. He's tired a lot. I know that T levels can fluctuate quite dramatically but I wasn't prepared for it to drop by half after switching him over to sub q injections. Also, his Free Testosterone is only 1.88 ng/dl and his Estradiol is 46. I'm not sure if that is okay or not. Anyone have any advice?
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby txtwindad » Thu May 26, 2016 7:08 pm

How often is he taking injections? And how long after an injection did they take blood for testing? did his dosage remain the same after the change?
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby ophelia » Thu May 26, 2016 8:07 pm

Dosage stayed the same. He is injected twice a week. 75mg each dose. I don't remember if he had his usual injection the day before his blood draw or not.
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby txtwindad » Fri May 27, 2016 5:04 am

SubQ absorbs faster than IM. I think the peak should be about 24 hours after the injection.
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby ledgemoor » Fri May 27, 2016 6:45 am

I was trying twice-weekly subq, which I posted about elsewhere.

I haven't had time to follow up on those posts. The subq didn't seem as effective to me. I didn't mention this to DW but she said the same thing. I am now back to weekly IM, and all is well.

So I would try going back to IM for a while and see what happens.
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby txtwindad » Fri May 27, 2016 11:21 am

FYI, Ledgemoor. I went back to IM as well. But I asked the doc if I could do it twice a week like subQ. She said, sure. So, I do the IM twice a week and it helps level out the dips.

SubQ worked great for me. I was just having an allergic reaction, so had to change.
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby ophelia » Sun May 29, 2016 10:52 am

Thanks for the input guys. Nice to know that we aren't the only ones who noticed a difference in outcome with the sub q dose.

I guess we'll go back to IM for a few months and see how that goes.
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby be64 » Sun May 29, 2016 4:28 pm

I switched from IM to SQ several years ago and have never looked back. I inject .08ml/16mg every day. I also inject 70IU HCG SQ daily. From my experience and that of many others on another web site and according to Dr. Crisler, you can lower your dose when doing SQ because you tend to have better results with SQ.

The criticle thing to remember is to draw the blood at the same time in relation to the injection each time. Ideally just prior to your next injection.
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Re: Sub Q or IM

Postby ledgemoor » Sun May 29, 2016 6:17 pm

txtwindad wrote:FYI, Ledgemoor. I went back to IM as well. But I asked the doc if I could do it twice a week like subQ. She said, sure. So, I do the IM twice a week and it helps level out the dips.

SubQ worked great for me. I was just having an allergic reaction, so had to change.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you either. I liked the more precise dosing from the small-diameter cylinders, and the smaller needles. I didn't have any allergic reactions, but it did bruise about third time on average. SubQ B12 has never bruised. I don't understand it.

I was read something about thousands of holes that accumulate over the years affecting the muscles. I did more research on that, and it turns out that the damage comes from the chemicals, not the physical needle. There is apparently nothing harmful about sane amounts of testosterone/cottonseed oil even long-term.

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