Defy Medical for TRT

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Defy Medical for TRT

Postby Hoosier52 » Sun May 29, 2016 6:58 am

Is anyone on this board using Defy Medical for their TRT? I am strongly considering it as I'm beginning to think that my biote doc knows little about TRT beyond pellets. He sent me for the wrong estradiol test and said he didn't want me to have my total T checked because with injections your T level is all over the place. I'll go to see him again in another week or so, and that will tell the tale for me.

If you are using Defy, are you pleased and what are the approximate costs? Did your PCP get upset with you using them? Are you using Dr. Saya or Dr. Crisler?

Most everything I've heard and read about Defy has been positive.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:31 am

I made the initial contact with Defy medical this morning. They can treat men in all 50 states. The prices are reasonable and their knowledge of treating low T is unsurpassed from what I've read at Peak Testosterone and ExcelMale websites.

My current TRT doctor is a nice guy, but I don't think he is up to speed with TRT outside of pellets.

Here is a link to Defy Medical based in Tampa, FL: http://www.defylowt.com/

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby gymaddict » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:49 am

I used them back in 2013 for about six months. They are great to deal with. Very helpful and supportive. They have a very knowledgeable doctor and also, Nelson Virgil, a testosterone guru up on his stuff, is associated with this business. Nelson has written his own book entitled, The Testosterone Syndrone.

I am secondary, not primary hypogonadal and my type situation is difficult to manage. Lots of good guys on this website tried to help me. After about six months of trying to regulate my endocrine system, I quit.

I need to get back on the wagon again but now have more complicated health problems to consider.

Thanks guys for being so helpful to all who are hypogonadal on this site.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby txtwindad » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:36 am

Do you see a person in real life or is this a kind of long distance consultation?
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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:12 pm

txtwindad wrote:Do you see a person in real life or is this a kind of long distance consultation?


They are located in Tampa. You can go there to see them or consult over the phone/skype. This is probably the wave of the future. More importantly, they know what they're doing. I've read and read and have yet to find a negative review. They are licensed to practice in all 50 states. They prescribe meds through Empower Pharmacy and they mail them to you. You have to have lab work every 6 months and regular consults with the doctor or his nurse. Check them out!

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby SquarePants » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:49 pm

I’m eager to hear about your upcoming experiences with them. I dealt with another Florida company a while back. Their consultation fee was usually waived, and they seemed to be charging reasonable fees for their lab work (through LabCorp). They also didn’t push supplements. The catch with them was that I had to purchase all medications through them at highly inflated prices. Overall, however, they were still cheaper than BodyLogic MD. They gave the patient more freedom in choosing their hormone doses, and prescribed Arimidex to take “as needed” without requiring new bloodwork for every little tweak, although I could request bloodwork. They required me to visit my primary care physician for periodic physicals and to have that doctor fill out a brief questionnaire about my health in order to continue treatment. I still needed periodic phone consultations with their clinic. Some of the consultations were with a consultant (non-doctor), and some phone consultations with their staff doctor were required. I now understand hormone treatment much better, and I’d be more comfortable going back to that type of system now. The reason I quit this company is a little complicated. I have other endocrine issues, and they weren’t really handling the big picture very well for me.

I’ve read Nelson Virgil’s book.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:15 pm

My Biote doctor is a nice guy, but after reading in the various forums I've decided he's not up to speed on injectable TRT. I'm supposed to go see him again next week for a follow-up on the AI he prescribed. I'm debating if I should go or not. The one issue is running out of TCyp before I can get in with Defy. I get another vial and another round of AI just in case.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:24 pm

I called Defy Medical and paid for my lab work which will be done here at Labcorp. Same for the physical to be done before phone consult with Dr. Saya. These people know what they are doing according to their many patients. I would encourage you to check them out. Too many doctors know little or nothing about TRT.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:30 pm

Got some of the initial paperwork done with Defy. Next is physical and blood work. Then consult with Dr. Saya.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:21 pm

I've got my physical and blood work completed. I should have a phone consult with Dr. Saya in about 3 weeks per my last conversation with Defy. I hope to get my wife to go with them too. We both have the same doctor now and he has done very little blood work on me and none on her, yet prescribing HRT.

When I had my physical, I explained to the PA at the Minute Clinic what I was doing with Defy and she thought that was "neat." When she phoned her doctor about some things she explained to him what I was doing and said, "it's pretty cool."

Telemedicine is the wave of the future. No waiting in office and able to consult with the best doctors. I would encourage anyone needing HRT to look at Defy.

I'll keep you updated.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Unfulfilled » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:44 pm

What are the costs for This place? Is it out of pocket only, or will they take any insurance?

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:04 pm

Unfulfilled wrote:What are the costs for This place? Is it out of pocket only, or will they take any insurance?


The initial one hour consult with Dr. Saya or Dr. Crisler, after your physical and blood work, is $250.00. They work with LabCorp for the blood work and you get discounted prices. There are follow-up consults. You can choose to speak to a nurse or one of the doctors. I don't have the prices here, but I think the nurse is $45 and the doctor is $125.

From what I've read, they do not take insurance but some of their patients file with their insurance company and get reimbursed. All of their scripts go through Empower Compounding Pharmacy or one other such pharmacy. The prices are reasonable.

I am just getting started, but the costs are reasonable IMO. especially since I've had no luck finding a REAL TRT doctor in my city of +600,000.

You ought to call them and ask. Really nice people. I've had 2-3 phone calls from them since I started with them. They will glad to answer your questions. I saw on their website that they do offer some type of free consultation. IMO they are THE best in the country that I've come across after months of looking. I have not heard one negative review from their patients.

Their are a lot of guys on the ExcelMale website that use them. Go there and search for "Defy." Lots of good info.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby txtwindad » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:56 pm

My understanding is it is illegal for them to require you to use their pharmacy. Have you asked if they will send you a prescription?
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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:19 pm

txtwindad wrote:My understanding is it is illegal for them to require you to use their pharmacy. Have you asked if they will send you a prescription?


Hmmm...hadn't heard that. I will find out when I do my consultation. I'm just in the process of starting with them. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:24 am

I have my consultation with Dr. Saya scheduled for the end of July. So far, Defy has been superb. If the treatments match the customer service, I'll be in good hands.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby txtwindad » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:29 am

I'm very interested. Thanks for keeping us posted.
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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:08 pm

I will keep you updated. If you have any questions, let me know.

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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby SeekingChange » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:10 pm

I am paying attention too. Do you know, do they only "see" patients who already have some sort of treatment started?
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Re: Anyone Using Defy Medical for TRT?

Postby Hoosier52 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:35 am

They'll see anyone. May be best if you've not started TRT. I've searched in vain for a great TRT doc locally. Defy has to be one of the best in the country and they are licensed in every state. Another would be Primebody. They have several doctors around the country. Check their website. May be one close to you. Defy is based in Tampa. That's where Dr. Saya is. Dr. Crisler us in Michigan. They only have 2 doctors as of now.

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Defy PLUS my HMO urologist?

Postby justsomeguy » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:54 pm

Ok, this is prolly crazy talk just before I nod off to sleep but a thought crossed my mind...

I'm not happy with my urologist, who is a "sexual health specialist" and claims to be very experienced in T therapy. He advised Testopel and so I gave it a go. Quite a painful procedure, but in the 3 months they've been in, I only felt somewhat better for about a month. About a month ago my T started crashing and now I'm in the 300's with zero libido & frequent inability to finish. My current doc is willing to let me switch to injections, but IM only (he thinks there's no studies proving efficacy of SQ).

So here's the idea: what if I get the T cyiopanate prescribed from current doc but then consult with Defy on the side? Assuming Defy prescribes SQ T, well then I will have my supply.

Dumb idea?


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