txtwindad wrote:MusicianForever wrote:andy_m wrote:whew. we talked. everything is fine
Good.Deelmo wrote:Masturbation is wrong. Just totally wrong. For all the reasons that Leah stated plus more. I have been a porn addict, and a bad one at that. I quit porn and MB almost two before I married. Cold turkey. It can be done. You can do it. I consider masturbation to be self-sex and that was NOT in God's design. (look for others here on TMB to pull out their flame throwers at me) I appreciate your maturity in recognizing that fact that your porn history probably taints MB for you. The attitude towards sex that porn creates has been explained very well be Leah. Your attitude towards sex should be ALL about your wife. Every bit of your sexual energy should be focused on your wife, not yourself. And hers on you. Now that you are engaged - start focusing your mind on her. Let your sexual energy build towards her (don't cross the line!!!) IMHO, masturbation is the cheap and easy way out. So what if you may frustrated - so what. Maybe (again IMHO) God designed it this way so you would turn to your spouse. AND WORK TOGETHER ON IT.
Now, everyone put up the flame throwers. I'm not saying MB is a sin, but it is wrong. Many things not specifically mentioned in the Bible are wrong - ie: pot, drugs, smoking. You must do what The Holy Spirit guides YOU to do.
+1000 (And I know I’m making myself awfully unpopular around here by agreeing with that!)andy_m wrote: I still struggle with masturbation. Having discovered this forum recently, I am now ambivalent on issue of masturbation (whereas I used to think its absolutely sinful).
When I was growing up nobody ever told me it was “wrong”, and it never even occured to me that it could be wrong...until I felt convicted by God after the first time I did it.
After visiting TMB I became convinced for a while that it was okay, but I ended up feeling convicted by God again that I shouldn’t do it. I’m with Deelmo on this one—you must do what the Holy Spirit guides you to do. I’d recommend you seek God about this one.
I have no issue with you stating that MB is wrong for you and that the Holy Spirit has dealt with you on this matter. The problem comes when you agree with Deelmo's statment that "MB is wrong. Just totally wrong". It is fine for you that you feel a clear calling not to MB. But, do not assign your calling to others. There is no Biblical justification for this position that withstands scrutiny. It has already been argued here ad nauseum.
I don’t want to get into a debate or anything. I only brought it up because it sounded to me like the OP always thought it was wrong before coming here. I was thinking it would be a good idea for him to seek God on the issue and not just take peoples' word for it. It's really between him, his FW, and God.
[Mod Note: Here's another example of overuse of quotes. You quoted quotes of quotes. It's too much. Please stick to the least quoting that will get the point across.]