Seekryt wrote:Yes, I am female, and yes I believe that even MUTAL viewing of porn is lazy and selfish. It's fast food sex which requires no relationship. I fail to see how my the credibility of my POV depends on my gender, though. Would my viewpoint have more credibility if I had a penis?
Possibly there would be more understanding of sexual release w/o a large component of emotional involvement. The mutual viewing that was mentioned in the suvery sounds ipso facto not selfish, so your assertion is a bit intriguing. As covered previously I believe it comes with a higher desire for emotional bond that comes from a feminine perspective. Some couples use alcohol or drugs together to boost their periods of intimacy. Some couples have the wife use a vibrator. Saying they are "lazy" to use those aids sounds like a condemnation, doesn't it? Some people drive a car instead of walking everywhere. At some point these things just become choices.
What exactly do "men's different libido and relationship styles" have to do with the laziness and selfishness of porn?
That comment probably wasn't directed at your statement about laziness and selfishness.
Is there a case that you can think of where it's generous and selfless to view porn? I'm all ears.
Hmmm. I wasn't trying to defend using adult materials, but I can imagine there might be some educational value for certain people. I think there might be some other legitimate uses for people who have gotten clearance in their doctrine for such things.
I'll point out that ANYONE who has orgasms accompanied by porn use is going to be damaging the overall marriage, particularly if that's where they're getting 80% of them. If you're talking about solo MB with no porn, certainly, that's sad, but it doesn't really belong in this discussion.
Well yes. Now it could be some men view adult materials and don't orgasm, so that would be within this thread's topic. As to masturbating and not viewing adult materials, I was just pointing that out as a general statement, but I agree it's offtopic.