Erection Challenges?: Try THIS!!! (L-Citrulline)

Erectile disfunction, premature ejaculation, delayed orgasm, etc.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:57 pm

Thought I'd report that I have now been on the L-Citrulline for six months and it still works fantastic!

Since beginning the L-Citrulline, I can always count on a good erection. I now also consistently get morning wood. And if I want to get insanely hard for a morning "wake-up call," my favorite trick is to also take two of the cayenne pepper capsules at bedtime the night before. Before getting on the L-Citrulline, the consistency of my erection quality had diminished and morning wood was far more sporadic. It has been a wonderful discovery for me.

I still take TWO 750mg capsules TWICE per day - for a total of 3,000 mgs. of L-Citrulline per day. I take them BETWEEN meals - and EVERY day!

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Postby ledgemoor » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:14 am

Thanks for the update. Glad it is still working for you also.

I am still taking 3 grams once daily. It definitely helps, both for quality and ease of erections, preejaculate, and especially for lessening muscle soreness from bicycling.

An aside, I have been traveling, and last took L-Citrulline 5 days ago. No change for three days, then I noticed my erections weren't quite as good, I have good morning wood but little or no pteejaculate, and got sore muscles from a short intense ride that would not have affected me when on the L-Citrulline.

BridesHubby, I think you need to at least double your dosage.

I don't understand how testosterone and nitrous oxide work together to make erections. I don't know, but I suspect that the L-Citrulline works best with an intermediate testosterone level--low, but still enough that you can perform.

I understand that Viagra etc won't work if your testosterone is really low. And L-Citrulline does not create desire, as I understand is also the case with Viagra.

On the other hand, if your testosterone levels are good, there isn't a lot for the L-Citrulline to do. For me it is just a little something extra, not the difference between good sex and ok sex by any means.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:13 pm

On the other hand, if your testosterone levels are good, there isn't a lot for the L-Citrulline to do.


I'm not so sure this is accurate.

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Postby ledgemoor » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:15 am

Please elaborate. I am interested in your thoughts.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:34 pm

Ledge, I've just not had time to properly research it. But testosterone levels don't always explain everything.

Thanks.

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Postby bballs » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:50 pm

Correct. Majority of the time it has nothing to do with this pathway directly. It almost always has to do with excess norepinephrine. When attempting to restart my system off TRT, my total test got as low as 47 (seriously). I felt horrible..but I was fully functional in all sexual domains.

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Postby texashubby » Wed May 21, 2014 5:58 pm

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Naproxen is on the drug list that may cause/contribute to ED.
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Postby ledgemoor » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:23 am

I ordered a kilo of pure L-Citrulline Malate in powdered form. Way cheaper than the capsules I have been taking. For $45 I get the equivalent of 1300 750mg capsules! I normally pay $25 for 180 capsules. I might up my dose ::alarm.

Also, since it should be taken between meals, and does not contain calcium carbonate filler, I can take it at the same time as my liothyronine sodium (T3) which should not be taken with calcium, so that means basically between meals.

I plan to mix it with juice or water and drink it. I have a lab scale, and will report back on how much volume-wise to take to get the usual 3g.

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Postby MyWifesMan » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:56 am

Ledge, any inkling as to the safe dosage range? I take the two 750 mg, 2x per day, on empty stomach.

Now, if I've been lax about my dosage for a few days and know I've got some "rocket time" to get ready for (say for sex later that day or early next morning), I'll take three at once. It works great! Again, for an insane erection (the kind that makes you say, "oh, yeah, baby!") , I'll also pop a couple of the cayenne pepper capsules about two hour before "showtime" or at bedtime the night before. The cayenne at bedtime makes for an astonishing, early morning erection. The combination of the L-Citrulline's nitric oxide and the pepper power has been a Godsend, I'm so glad to have discovered it. But mostly, I only use the L-Citrulline.

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Postby ledgemoor » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:54 pm

MyWifesMan, that's interesting that you experience almost immediate results. It takes about three days for it to kick in with me, and about 3 days to lose effectiveness if I stop taking it. An article on livestrong.com verifies the three days, but also recommends taking it before and after a ride.

Yeah, the 6mg/day is a frequently-recommended dosage.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/50642 ... itrulline/ recommends 2 to 15 grams!

http://www.livestrong.com/article/29974 ... -used-for/ references a study where only 1.5 g helped ED.

So it looks like whatever works for you!

I did some searching on dosage for the powder. http://www.pureformulas.com/lcitrulline ... AU4mB.dpbs says it is 3 g/teaspoon (click on the INGREDIENTS tab). This doesn't say it is "L-Citrulline Malate" however. This site says there are 2.8 g/teaspoon of L-Citrulline Malate, so 2 teaspoons would be a good starting point. http://www.bulksupplements.com/l-citrul ... alate.html

Carrie, I find that it's benefit to erections is modest. Thanks to testosterone injections, there isn't a lot for it to do. However, it does make them more reliable and more frequent. I wish I would have known about it when my testosterone was low. But maybe it was a good thing I didn't because if it had worked I may have never tried testosterone.

I have also noticed that I am making more preejaculate now. We were having an especially exciting and drawn-out session. DW noticed an unusual amount of preejaculate [mod edit] during foreplay, and asked me if I wanted to go ahead and have an O. We have had problems where if I get really aroused, semen apparently escapes without orgasm, then I have trouble maintaining an erection. I didn't feel this was the case this time, so I told her no, I preferred to carry on with what we were doing. Sure enough, when the time came I ejaculated quite a bit. [mod edit]

But the most effective use of L-Citrulline is preventing muscle soreness from exercising. It is amazing -- it practically eliminates that next-day sore-muscles feeling.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:19 pm

MyWifesMan, that's interesting that you experience almost immediate results. It takes about three days for it to kick in with me, and about 3 days to lose effectiveness if I stop taking it.


Ledgemoor, I don't mean that I can go completely off the L-Citrulline for three days and then pop some capsules and "wham!" I mean that if I've only been taking, say, just two 750 mg capsules for a couple of days, maybe even missed the third day entirely, on the fourth day I can take 3 capsules and in a couple of hours I pretty ready to go. But, yes, about three days off, there is a big difference. But ramping up dosages after those days, the full effect comes back rather quickly (a day or so). The stuff simply works, at least if one's problem is diminished nitric oxide - common to most of us much past 50. But how cool to find a cheap supplement that truly works. But using the garlic and cayenne pepper, even before I discovered the L-Citrulline, helped a good bit. Why the L-Citrulline is such a well-kept secret is beyond me.

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Postby ledgemoor » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:26 am

Ok, so in summary, if you take a good base daily dose, taking extra will have an immediate effect. That jives with your experience and explains the Livestrong article.

Yeah, testosterone doesn't really cause erections. NO does. I don't think anyone really understands the relationship between testosterone and erections. I even read on webmd or some other such "reputable" site that testosterone will improve libido, but will not cure ED. Not true obviously-- there has to be a link.

The reason L-Citrulline isn't more popular is because there isn't a lot of money to be made from naturally-occuring substances. Surfing the web, it seems that it is most popularity used for athletic performance. Pharmaceutical companies aren't attracted to that market because insurance and government does't pay for it.

BTW I discovered that L-Citrulline helps muscle soreness by accident. I read about it here, from you probably, and noticed I didn't get sore anymore. Soon thereafter there was a writeup on it in Bicycling.

I will pick up some cayenne capsules to play with. We do seem to have really great sex after a date to an Indian restaurant :-)
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Postby MyWifesMan » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:57 pm

We do seem to have really great sex after a date to an Indian restaurant :-)


Well, with over 1.25 BILLION indians and over 50% of the population being over 25, there may be something to that spicy food! :D

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Postby ledgemoor » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:55 am

An update on the bulk L-Citrulline Mallate that I ordered:

I increased my dosage to 3 grams twice a day, and my erections are way better. Easier to get, harder, and more reliable. Also, a lot more preejaculate, and I think my semen volume has increased too. It's like I'm in my 30's again!

It dissolves easily. I love cranberry products, and drink cranberry juice cocktail diluted 1 part juice to 3 or 4 parts water cut down on sugar and expense. If I am drinking that, I put 1 teaspoon (which is very close to 3 grams) of L-Citrulline powder in that. If not, I just dilute one teaspoon into an ounce or two of water and drink it. The Malate is quite sour, but it is tolerable. I drink water afterwards to get rid of the sour taste, and to wash the acid off my teeth.

I haven't been too religious about when I take it. I started taking it between meals, but now usually with meals, and it still works fine.
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Postby Nvr2Late » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:22 pm

So you're using a powder? My DH swears by the L-citrulline caps he takes. I wonder if the powder makes any difference. What do you think?

He tried some cayenne a couple nights ago when he wasn't quite hard enough for a second encounter in a day. But alas, even the spicy stuff didn't do anything for him. The brand was Cool Cayenne by Solgar, I think.
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Postby ledgemoor » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:48 pm

The only reason I take powder is that it is cheaper. I take the equivalent of 8 capsules per day. The $25 NOW brand has 180 capsules per bottle, and would last me only 22 days. My $45 kilo of powder will last 165 days.
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Postby Nvr2Late » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:00 pm

Cheaper is good! I'm glad I asked. With all the supplements we're taking, and pathetic health insurance...we need to find ways to keep this going on a budget.
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Postby mrvan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:53 am

I began taking the L-Citrulline Mallate two weeks ago and built up to 3g twice a day. I waited three days to start the L-Citrulline Mallate after I stopped taking Cialis. It seemed to work somewhat at the lower dose of 1.5g twice a day so I gradually increased it to determine a better dosage. The last several days my performance dropped back to about where it was just before I started taking Cialis. For my condition L-Citrulline Mallate does't appear to work. I'm headed back to Cialis after I wait three days for the L-Citrulline Mallate to work its way out of my system.

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Postby Nvr2Late » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:53 am

We've done a good bit of experimenting the past couple months. His Cialis ran out, so we tried a 3-tablet trial of Viagra. He kept on taking Citrulline. The results on Viagra were amazing, of course. Then the Citrulline ran out. He was using half a tablet of Viagra and experiencing full results, by the way.

Then it all ran out and so did our budget. So for about 3 weeks, nothing more than some tribulus tablets and his normal vitamin mineral stuff daily. And eventually the erections ran out, too. The desire was there for sure, but keeping an erection beyond about 5 minutes became impossible. Very frustrating for us both. No PIV for days. This coincided with my shoulder surgery which put me out of commission for a few days, so no big deal, but when I got to feeling better, we had to address it.

So I don't know. Citrulline helps, but apparently it can't do the entire job. And relative to Viagra or Cialis, NOTHING is as effective for my DH at this point. We are working on his cardiovascular health because we know it's all interrelated, but for now, it's clear he usually will need pharmaceutical assistance.

No big surprise that this past weekend we were at the local pharmacy wheeling and dealing for the best price we could negotiate on a half-scrip refill of Cialis :lol:
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Postby bballs » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:14 pm

Btw. Beet juice works really well for me.


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