Erection Challenges?: Try THIS!!! (L-Citrulline)

Erectile disfunction, premature ejaculation, delayed orgasm, etc.
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Re: Erection Challenges?: Try THIS!!!

Postby Nvr2Late » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:19 pm

Btw. Beet juice works really well for me.

I imagine it would if you don't have advanced ED. That is great, isn't it! Super easy and healthy fix! ::clap

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One of the first known uses of beets was by the ancient Romans, who used them medicinally as an aphrodisiac. Many plants have been considered an aphrodisiac by some culture at some time, but in this case it may be more than just wishful thinking.

As noted above, beets can increase blood flow due to their nitrates. Increased blood flow to the genital areas is one of the mechanisms Viagra and other pharmaceuticals create their effects. Beets also contain high amounts of boron, which is directly related to the production of human sex hormones.


I wish we'd known about the health benefits of beets years ago. I like them but we sort of ignored them until the past couple years. Now they are pretty much a daily thing, raw in a veggie-fruit-protein smoothie.
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Postby ledgemoor » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:30 pm

Nvr2Late wrote: Citrulline helps, but apparently it can't do the entire job. And relative to Viagra or Cialis, NOTHING is as effective for my DH at this point.

I forget -- is he shooting testosterone?

bballs wrote:Btw. Beet juice works really well for me.

A lot of cyclists swear by beat juice for athletic performance. I wonder if it has any L-Citrulline in it or is similar?
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Postby C_Brown » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:28 pm

Something I've tried is while taking L-Citrulline now and then take a bit of L-Arginine as well. I think it has helped get past some times when the L-Citrulline alone wasn't quite enough.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:41 pm

Under Beet Root capsules reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Way-Powder-Capsules-100-Count/dp/B00068JBIS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top), a physician made this comment: "To get the maximum benefit combine taking beet root along with L-citrulline and Pycnogenol. The combination is a WOW."

Don't know anything about Pycnogenol, but here's a description: "Pycnogenol is a concentrated natural extract from the bark of pine trees that grows in this 4,000 square mile forest. These pine trees contain concentrated levels of unique flavonoid compounds that support the body's ability to neutralize free radicals. Free radicals (reactive molecules) can inhibit immune functions and expedite the aging process."

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Postby mm » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:17 pm

What about mallate? I see it mentioned on this thread and it seems a lot of suppliers combine it with citrulline. Does anybody know what it's supposed to do?
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Postby Nvr2Late » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:14 pm

ledgemoor wrote:I forget -- is he shooting testosterone?


Yes, he is. His last labs showed a T level of about 1100 which is pretty high for a 58 yr old. We actually decreased his dose from .75 to .5 each week.
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Postby Nvr2Late » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:17 pm

MyWifesMan: he took pycnogenol for about a year. Didn't really put that combo together, though. Pycnogenol is horribly expensive as supplements go, though :( We eliminated it a while back because of financial constraints.

MM: malate is the form of citrulline. It's not a separate substance.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:35 pm

MyWifesMan: he took pycnogenol for about a year. Didn't really put that combo together, though. Pycnogenol is horribly expensive as supplements go, though :( We eliminated it a while back because of financial constraints.


@ how many capsules and what mg dose per day?

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Postby Nvr2Late » Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:52 am

MWM: he was taking 1 100 mg cap per day.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:16 am

MWM: he was taking 1 100 mg cap per day.


So, roughly $20 per month. A bit pricy, but not when you start considering the cost of prescription stuff.

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Postby ledgemoor » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:25 pm

Nvr2Late wrote:His last labs showed a T level of about 1100 which is pretty high for a 58 yr old. We actually decreased his dose from .75 to .5 each week.

Glad to hear that his low testosterone problem is solved. Very high level on a fairly low dosage, so that's good. You are doing the right thing to decrease the dosage. His testes are definitely producing, and you don't want to discourage them :D.

MM wrote:What about mallate? I see it mentioned on this thread and it seems a lot of suppliers combine it with citrulline. Does anybody know what it's supposed to do?

I've been trying to find out the same thing.

Nvr2Late wrote:MM: malate is the form of citrulline. It's not a separate substance.

What is your source on this? My reading suggests that L-Citrulline Malate is just a mixture of L-Citrulline and Malic Acid. Nothing authoritative, just other forums, like this:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 913&page=1

I do know that it is available as pure L-Citrulline, 1:1 L-Citrulline Malate, and 2:1 L-Citrulline Malate. I don't know much about chemistry, but I think that would be impossible if it were an actual compound such as Calcium Carbonate for instance. I know that L-Citrulline tastes totally different than 1:1 L-Citrulline Malate, so we can rule out different names for the same stuff.

But the real question is what does Malic Acid do? I took 3g/day of L-Citrulline and 1:1 L-Citrulline Malate, and couldn't tell any difference. Sexually, neither at that dose was anything to write home about. For muscle soreness, either was great. I'm about out of 1:1 L-Citrulline Malate, so will order 2:1 next time and see if I notice any difference at my current 6g/day dose.

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Postby MyWifesMan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:48 pm

Ledge, at 6 grams per day, you are double the dosage I've been taking. I still don't know the safe dosage limits. When my powder comes in, I may consider upping to 4 or 5 grams per day. And I may add beet root.

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Postby Nvr2Late » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:17 am

It's a chemistry thing. Citrulline combined with malic acid = Citrulline malate.
Like sodium hydroxide plus coconut oil combining chemically to produce sodium cocoate (aka soap).
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Postby Nvr2Late » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:22 am

MyWifesMan wrote:So, roughly $20 per month. A bit pricy, but not when you start considering the cost of prescription stuff.


IF that was all he (we) were taking :lol: It's a cumulative thing. We average approximately $200 each month - 6 wks in various supplements precisely because we are attempting to avoid most pharmaceuticals. You wouldn't believe our supplement cabinet, LOL. Looks like a shelf in a health food store. He takes about 15-18 different supplements/compounds/vitamin mineral products per day. I take at least 13.

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Postby ledgemoor » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:58 am

MyWifesMan wrote:Ledge, at 6 grams per day, you are double the dosage I've been taking. I still don't know the safe dosage limits. When my powder comes in, I may consider upping to 4 or 5 grams per day. And I may add beet root.


This is my source for dosage:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/54508 ... ne-malate/
http://www.livestrong.com/article/50642 ... itrulline/

This site used to be affiliated with Lance Armstrong, so take that into consideration :lol:.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:33 pm

Thanks, Ledgemoor.

I have now been back on a new L-Citrulline powder: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008P4BZPW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Although I've only been back on it about two days, so far I'm not impressed, as it doesn't seem as potent as did the NOW capsules of it I had been taking. And, actually, I've upped my daily amount from about 3 grams per day to about 4.5. I'll know pretty soon if this just needs a few days to kick in - was out of the capsules for about 3 days. But especially with the added 1.5 grams per day, I thought I'd be Superman :D . Maybe this particular manufacturer's product needs a higher dosage? I bought this one because it looked like I would get a LOT more bang for my buck. We'll see. Sometimes ya just gotta experiment - at least within apparently safe parameters.

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Postby ledgemoor » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:14 am

hmmm... should be the same stuff. The NOW has some calcium carbonate or something, but that shouldn't matter. How does the taste compare?

The stuff seems most effective after you first start taking it or upping dosage. My erections have been great, but the preejaculate is about the same as before I upped my dose. We've had a lot of stress lately, so that may be a factor.

I haven't been bicycling, so I quit taking it about a week ago just to see what happens. No change in the sex department.

I went for my first ride in 2 weeks and pushed it hard. I crashed but still set a personal record for that trail. I didn't get the least bit sore. I did take 6 grams 1:1 L-Citrulline Malate the morning before the ride -- the first I had taken in a week. I doubt it was enough to make any difference.

The purpose of L-Cit is to make L-Arginine, which is supposed to make Nitrous Oxide. I suppose that you can get to a point where your levels are optimal and the rest gets discarded.

I'd give 3g twice a day a try for a couple weeks and see what happens. I know I am definitely better a week after a long run of 6 g/day than I was when I was taking 3. And based on my experience, I don't think 2 days on 4.5 is long enough to see a difference. When I went from 3 to 6, it took a week or so to notice any difference as I recall.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:54 pm

Ledge, I think the situation is that I have recently lost a ton of weight VERY quickly, continue to, and it has impacted me sexually. I've lost 25 lbs in about 3 - 4 months. My goal is another 13 lbs. After I FINALLY figured out a successful way of losing my weight consistently (more an overall nutrition approach that is not a diet), through daily powerwalking on huge hills, and while eating healthy, cutting sugar, dairy and almost all grains. I was nearly 40 lbs overweight and at 57 I figured this is the time to finally get back down to my wedding weight of 25 years ago. So I decided to excelerate the weight loss by only eating breakfast and supper, and it REALLY works. The way I am doing it, I do not get hungry between meals and I am eating very healthy and balanced meals. But I believe I've probably shocked my system and it has effected my sex drive. Upon hitting my correct weight (actually, 13 more pounds and I'll re-evaluate), I'll return to three meals per day, albeit continued healthy and smart portion control. Also, I may have reduced my fat intake too much - I know this can impact libido and arousal quality. I am very excited about my progress and now understand how to keep it off. And I DO cheat big time on Saturday nights - eat all the icecream I want! :D I hope to be at my correct weight by Christmas (the inverse of most everyone).

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Postby ledgemoor » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:30 am

Congratulations on the weight loss! Sounds like you are going about it in a smart way -- not feeling hungry and all. So often people starve themselves, and sure enough lose weight, but can't keep it off because you can't go thru life being hungry all the time. It's a lifestyle change. I'll bet that when your body adjusts to the new you, your libido will come back with a vengeance :-).

What you eat is more important than how much. I have been following a guy named John McDougall. His shtick is eating primarily simple carbs -- rice, beans, potatoes, etc. His premise is based on the diets of primitive cultures around the world and what they eat. He claims you can eat as much of these foods as you want and not get overweight. I have been following it halfheartedly, and am not gaining weight in the winter as I normally do. I am looking forward to spring when I can start riding more and will then get more serious about it and try to lose the last 5 extra lbs I have.

On another topic, I went for another short ride and got slightly sore, so started the L-Citrulline again after about 2 weeks off of it. My erections have been fantastic -- very frequent. Still not as wet as I would like tho. Maybe the L-Cit doesn't affect that after all.
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Postby MyWifesMan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:31 pm

LedgemooR: Still not as wet as I would like tho.


Are you referencing "Pre-E" - I never notice that too much, at least not until RIGHT before the PONR.


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