*Sorry if this is getting off the intent of the thread it can be moved or deleted if need be*
I think of kids as something that may simply happen
. I am not opposed I have been incredibly excited to have kids since I was about 12-14
That being said I still have a lot of schooling ahead of me and I am still at the stage where I might have "too much fun with kids."
Actually the past few months I have somewhat been not thinking about having kids... I have just REALLY been enjoying my time with Tigger.
So at some point... unless God plans sooner.
If I might express something to you? There are a lot of people who do not trust doctors and medicine. I get it. For starters not everyone is actually a good Doc. However an increasing problem is how busy doctors are (this will only get worse as shortages increase in the US). Doctors who before had time to explain are under greater pressure "to see more patients" and quantity is focused on rather than quality care. This is what many hospital systems push for and what many doctors have to do unfortunately. Also something medical school can focus on is how smart the doctors is rather than whether a doctor is good with patients. In my time working in the ER I encountered some really "smart" doctors who had ZERO
bedside manner. They did not care how their patients felt, they did not care to explain when a patient was ignorant, and they had no sensitivity to how a patient felt. That IMO is unethical and wrong. For any of you reading this where that has been your experience with anyone in the medical community I am sorry.
To a point this is problem I am facing as I am trying to get a medical degree. I care about people, but I am TERRIBLE at chemistry. I will see if I make it. If God wills I shall prevail! Personally I would rather have a doctor who care about patients (and is competent) rather than one who knows everything but cannot effectively communicate that.
To simply put it I know almost nothing about cars. I wish I did, but I do not. I don't know how to change the lights, change the oil, or really do anything. I am ignorant. It isn't wrong of me to be so, it just means I am not the guy to do car work. The human body is infinitely more complex. This is why it takes a doctor 12-20 years of rigorous studying (depending how complex their training, schooling, and if they branch out into several areas). In those years of education they learn a lot. They become very wise in the ways of the body. Many of the doctors I worked with have amazed me with their detailed knowledge of intricate things and their ability to fly into action when something is wrong (ER work keep in mind). Sometimes what we do not understand is to them (doctors) basic common knowledge. Working in the ER you honestly had to explain the same things over and over to patients. Some doctors unfortunately get tired of explaining why. In my opinion this is one of the most important aspects of the job. While they may have 1-2 decades of schooling that schooling is much more effective when it can be explained!
So I may not know your OBGYN, but it is my guess they had very good reasoning for what they told. They may have been in a rush and been very forceful in recommendations without explaining their reasoning or communicating effectively. I am sorry about that. It is bad patient care. If your OBGYN is not caring and considerate I might advocate for you to find one that does (if you are able to). Tiggers first OBGYN was a really terrible experience for her. She switched and her current OBGYN is fantastic! Her current one takes time to explain benefits and risks, clears up misunderstandings, is patient, and very comforting. In my opinion she is everything an OBGYN should be.
Fortunately doctors are very smart, but unfortunately some have let it get to their head! Find one you feel comfortable with who can communicate effectively it is worth it!
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Another thing I might mention is pharmacology. This is the study of drug interactions with the body. Now personally I do not take any medications I do not have to as many have side effects. I do want to say that "drugs" does not mean EVIL
. What are drugs made from and designed from? Plants and herbs (most of the time). So consider that many drugs are more natural than you might think (if you are curious I would encourage you to study some biology and pharmacology). I would also advice befriending a pharmicist/pharmacology major. They usually have the low down on what drugs are incredibly beneficial and which are harmful. It can be frustrating that there are really good helpful drugs, but people will not use them because they are afraid....
A few examples being. I have seen WAY too many babies in the ER who do not (technically) have a fever and even when babies do have fevers (and I understand scared parents) most of the time THE PARENTS HAVE NOT EVEN GIVEN TYLENOL!
Tylenol simply works period. It reduces fever and saves kids lives.
We will give them Tylenol in the ER (we do however charge 10-30x probably). Another time I found frustrating was when I was first in college. At the time I was renting a room from a family. The husband and wife who I lived with were "against formal medicine." The wife came down with shingles. For two months the husband was trying all of this massive vitamin C dosage routine and weird internet conspiracy treatments. Meanwhile his wife was VERY sick, in lots of pain, and was getting worse. I felt so bad for her, but her husband would not let her go to the doctor. Finally after the 3rd month he gave in and they went to the doctor and got the appropriate medication. She was without pain almost immediately and totally fine in less than a week.
Sorry if I started ranting, but I it is frustrating when we have the means to help people....
That being said there are a LOT of really sketchy medications out there. Most drugs have contraindications, some have bad side effects, and many do not work well with other drugs. I trust older drugs more than "new" ones. Old ones have better track record. There are also good drugs such Aspirin which is actually really healthy for most people to take (it saves lives and people can live much longer). So again they are not all bad. Remember most drugs are either made from plants or are synthesized versions of plants. Plants may be "natural" but some can be just as harmful as medication. If curious study pharmacology or make friends with someone who knows their stuff who can help you weed through the mess.
On BC. From my learning most hormonal BC just gives you more hormones (nothing unnatural there). As far as IUD's go they can actually be great. They have gotten a lot better over the years and continue to become better. They are not for everyone, but all of the OBGYN's I know love them. Keep in mind these are Christian Pro-life women. The most unanimous voice seems to be for the Mirena. Of the two OBGYN;s I have talked to about it 1 OBGYN has it herself and the other's two daughters have it (if she was still of child bearing age she stated she would have had it). I know an ER doc (former OBGYN for 30+ years) who will often X-ray women who have the Mirena. Radiology (xrays and CT scans) expose patients to radiation. This is not a big deal for adults, but can be especially harmful for children and unborn. Before a woman of child bearing age can under go radiology it is common practice to make sure she is not pregnant (unless the patients life is on the line). You can get in big trouble/get sued if you radiate a women who is pregnant. The ER doctor (former OBGYN) will take the Mirena as "not pregnant" and go ahead with the scan (keep in mind people who have their "tubes tied" or do not have the MIrena get a pregnancy test before scanning). Statistically they more effective than having your tubes tied! There are a lot of other benefits. My wife, her own decision not mine, would have got one, but she is currently unable to. What it really comes down to is having done what you are comfortable with. Something can be really great, but if you don't feel good about it don't get it. It is your body and your family. Keep in mind for IUD's getting a good brand (there are bad ones) having it correctly placed by a competent OBGYN, and having it removed at the proper time are important. Tiggers OBGYN places about 1-2 Mirena's a day and told us she would not be comfortable recommending it to patients if she wouldn't use it herself and if it was not effective. Again this all comes down to finding a good OBGYN who can explain things. STOP SKIPPING BACK ON TRACK
FoxluvsBunny wrote:Usually pills inhibit ovulation... I'm curious what the mechanism is in her pill if she actually ovulates on it. I'd be curious if she charted her fertility if she's really ovulating on the pill as maybe she needs a new one, since that defeats the point IMHO.
Perhaps ovulate isn't the right word...
More when in doubt we use other methods too. IE when she is feeling extra frisky, when using abx, or if she has missed a pill due to illness. She has a REALLY weird cycle (usually 2x per month) being on birth control has helped this, but while they are working it is still irregular and she seems to ovulate sometimes. The first two Birth Controls she did try had bad side effects. The first one she had little interest in me and the 2nd meant she was bleeding all the time. After two months of that we switched
We both like her current one
As far as how the pulling out method feels (vs not) thanks for the input and your thoughts on it. I wouldn't view it as ungenerous either. Just it was interesting to hear an author so vehemently against it. Granted that author was one VERY opinionated woman who was involved with some very dubious people.