Now maybe a hysterectomy ?

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Postby landschooner » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:45 pm

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Postby beekeeper » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:19 pm

We got my Dw in to see a doctor today.

Apparently the rectal bleeding is a normal side effect from a colonoscopy she had a few weeks ago. The doctor said that she likely got an infection from the colonoscopy which than caused bloating, gas and hemorrhoid bleeding. So I guess passing blood in your stool is no big deal.

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Postby Kilarin » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:34 pm

beekeeper wrote:So I guess passing blood in your stool is no big deal.

Isn't ALWAYS a big deal. Sometimes it can be a VERY big deal. Just depends on what the cause is, and how much blood there is.

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Postby beekeeper » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:59 pm

I have had an duodenal ulcer [managed with meds] since 1997, with it blood in my stool was a bad thing.

Not connecting her stool blood with the colonoscopy, I had assumed that rectal blood and uterus blood, bleeding from multiple organs, must be symptomatic of a much worse disease.

Still seems messed up that a colonoscopy can give you an infection that inflates your colon with gas and causes you to bleed weeks later.

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Postby beekeeper » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:21 pm

GYN appointment was today.

Doctor came in over an hour late, rushed through an exam, and took a biopsy from the cyst and the appointment was over.

My Dw said she wanted to discuss a hysterectomy. The doctor said that was out of the question, they need to do the biopsy first and get the test results. The doctor sees no reason for a hysterectomy. The doctor has little bedside manner. My Dw was in a lot of pain during the biopsy. Immediately after the appointment her flow started up fairly heavy again.

Now we wait until next week and hopefully her PCP will share with us the results of the test.

Will the biopsy cause this period to end finally? Three weeks continuous seems a bit long.

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Postby landschooner » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:31 pm

Some doctors are real idiots. They may be medical geniuses but they forget they are treating people. he should have stayed to answer your questions.
Sorry you had that experience.

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Postby Two Hearts » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:51 pm

beekeeper wrote:Will the biopsy cause this period to end finally? Three weeks continuous seems a bit long.

Beekeeper,
I'm sorry to read that the doctor's visit left you with more questions than answers. I hope your DW's follow-up care can be scheduled with someone that will take the time to address all of your concerns.

I had an endometrial biopsy last Wed. The doctor told me to expect bleeding for the next 72 hours and not to insert anything at all (tampon, douche,fingers, penis, dildo) into the vagina until a full 72 hours went by. If I was still bleeding after that, I was to call their office to report it. With your wife moving into a fourth week of heavy bleeding, I hope they run a blood test to check her for anemia.

About her rectal bleeding. The doctor said it was caused by an infection from the colonoscopy, so did he prescribe antibiotics to treat the infection? She's bleeding weeks later, it's an infection, no treatment?

I have been and will continue to pray for both of you. ::pray

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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:48 am

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beekeeper wrote:Will the biopsy cause this period to end finally? Three weeks continuous seems a bit long.

Beekeeper,
I'm sorry to read that the doctor's visit left you with more questions than answers. I hope your DW's follow-up care can be scheduled with someone that will take the time to address all of your concerns.

I had an endometrial biopsy last Wed. The doctor told me to expect bleeding for the next 72 hours and not to insert anything at all (tampon, douche,fingers, penis, dildo) into the vagina until a full 72 hours went by.


Thank you. I read this to my Dw, she says she was told 'a few hours' not 72.



... If I was still bleeding after that, I was to call their office to report it. With your wife moving into a fourth week of heavy bleeding, I hope they run a blood test to check her for anemia.


High white cell count, slight anemia.



... About her rectal bleeding. The doctor said it was caused by an infection from the colonoscopy, so did he prescribe antibiotics to treat the infection? She's bleeding weeks later, it's an infection, no treatment?


They wanted a stool sample to be tested. Whatever the test was looking for, came back negative.

No antibiotics.



... I have been and will continue to pray for both of you. ::pray

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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:52 am

Dw has a friend at work who likes her GYN, my Dw got the name, checked on our insurance website to see that this GYN is a member, called this morning, they are accepting new patients, scheduled the follow-up with this GYN. Contacted her PCP to have everything sent to this other GYN for the follow-up. Must swing by office to sign a form.

We will see.

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Now maybe a hysterectomy ?

Postby Two Hearts » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:39 pm

Did you feel the earthquake? Glad to hear on the news that there are no reports of injuries or damage.

So happy to read that your wife was able to switch to a different specialist. Praying that these latest health issues are soon resolved.
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Postby landschooner » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:42 pm

beekeeper wrote:Dw has a friend at work who likes her GYN, my Dw got the name, checked on our insurance website to see that this GYN is a member, called this morning, they are accepting new patients, scheduled the follow-up with this GYN. Contacted her PCP to have everything sent to this other GYN for the follow-up. Must swing by office to sign a form.

We will see.


cool. That sounds good.

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Postby ledgemoor » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:10 pm

Glad you found another doctor who hopefully will be better to work with.

The first doctor was right, though -- a hysterectomy is nothing to rush into. DW needed one due to uterine cancer. It is a serious operation, and DW's outcome was not at all positive. She also had fibroids etc. but they were not causing her problems.

I encourage you to at least talk to a bHRT specialist. There is new research on bHRT and cancer, and you might feel at peace with trying it if you talked to one.

Praying for you both.
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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:49 pm

Two Hearts wrote:Did you feel the earthquake? Glad to hear on the news that there are no reports of injuries or damage.

So happy to read that your wife was able to switch to a different specialist. Praying that these latest health issues are soon resolved.
~TH~


I was in the city attending a Grange meeting. I did not notice any earthquake. Dw was home in bed.

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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:52 pm

ledgemoor wrote:Glad you found another doctor who hopefully will be better to work with.

The first doctor was right, though -- a hysterectomy is nothing to rush into. DW needed one due to uterine cancer. It is a serious operation, and DW's outcome was not at all positive. She also had fibroids etc. but they were not causing her problems.

I encourage you to at least talk to a bHRT specialist. There is new research on bHRT and cancer, and you might feel at peace with trying it if you talked to one.

Praying for you both.


I will try to see if one exists in our insurance network.

Usually the military is not all about the most modern technology. :)

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Postby ledgemoor » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:30 am

I'm thinking it may be best to contact the bHRT doctor's office first, get them your insurance info, and see if they will accept it. The doctor we use for her bHRT as well as my testosterone is a regular Gyn, so any billing from him for DW wouldn't raise any red flags. Me--that's a different matter :D. But fortunately or unfortunately, we are self-pay.

As medical care goes, bHRT isn't that expensive.
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Postby beekeeper » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:23 am

ledgemoor wrote:I'm thinking it may be best to contact the bHRT doctor's office first, get them your insurance info, and see if they will accept it. The doctor we use for her bHRT as well as my testosterone is a regular Gyn, so any billing from him for DW wouldn't raise any red flags. Me--that's a different matter :D. But fortunately or unfortunately, we are self-pay.

As medical care goes, bHRT isn't that expensive.


I looked into that a few years ago. We did not have any HRT specialists in this region.

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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:11 am

Lab results from the biopsy are negative, so no cancer. That GYN sees no need for any further follow-up appointments since there is no cancer. I guess 3 weeks of cramping / bleeding is 'normal'?!?

I urged Dw to go through HMO's list of GYNs and find another that will talk with us. She found one last week, had to fill-out forms before an appointment could be scheduled. We thought we would get a call-back last week. Did not happen, so Monday [yesterday] she called this GYN's office. They did not have the stuff from the PCP yet. [they all share the same computer network, to me 'getting it' should be a matter of logging onto your own network].

Dw called this morning, the earliest opening is in December. She scheduled for that appointment, and also managed to get onto a 'cancellation' list. We are now at 3 1/2 weeks of cramping/bleeding, and still blood in stool.

IMHO, these delays seem out of hand. I guess we could run back down to Connecticut and go on-base, we could get an appointment within a few weeks. But then to be treated by corpsmen again just seems like a huge step backwards. Motrin for a week to see if the problem goes away, then, ...



Reminds me, of last May. I had a hernia episode. I got into my PSP 'immediately' [given a one week delay for an appointment], she verified I had a problem and referred me to a urologist. The earliest opening for me to see a urologist was last week [17 October]. Being May, it seemed to me that mid-October was a long time away to have a hernia. So I contacted our insurance, found a urology clinic 3 hours away, contacted them, got an appointment and saw that urologist the next week. By then my swelling was down, he said that it may have been a 'once-off' event. He does not want to do surgery until it flares up a second time, due to the likelihood of getting MSRA during the operation. He explained that it could be done with Laparoscopy so it would be an out-patient procedure, which I guess lessens the MSRA risk some.

But anyway, I am reminded of my hernia because when I was in so much pain, and a 5 month delay to see a specialist is considered normal. Now with her trying to see a GYN, there are still these massive delays in the system.



Fortunately her employer is good about it. On days when she has trouble walking, and can not stand up straight, they send her home.

God does have a plan, I think. Dw was the Assistant Produce Manager in her grocery store. The chain went through a big re-structuring and moved some employees around in-house. Which bumped her from Produce over to check-out, so now she is a cashier. The Head-cashier is one pay-grade higher but with Dw's seniority she makes more per-hour then the head-cashier makes. The interesting thing is that she is not carrying crates of fruits/veggies setting the display line anymore. Her move to being a cashier happened 2 or 3 days before she started this period. Had this period happened when she was still in Produce, it would have disabled her from stocking the display line. Now she only has to stand in one spot and has very little lifting. So it does seem to be going along to some bigger plan.

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Postby catwoman » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:19 am

Im sorry your wife is having such a hard time getting seen. If I was bleeding for that long my life would seriously be inhibited. Praying she gets in soon and things get resolved! ::pray

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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:03 am

catwoman wrote:Im sorry your wife is having such a hard time getting seen. If I was bleeding for that long my life would seriously be inhibited. Praying she gets in soon and things get resolved! ::pray


Thank you.

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Postby beekeeper » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:23 pm

I just got off the phone with a GYN nurse at our local teaching hospital.

I told her the story of my Dw's reproductive problems [here cervix refused to dilate during pregnancy]; 28 years of peri-menopause [night sweats, cold /hot flashes, low estrogen]; ineligibility of HRT; 2 years with no periods, and now 3 weeks of cramping / bleeding; the ovary cysts and uterine fibroids.

As I said all of this, she read along in my Dw's file, correcting my phrases/etc as I went along.

She assured me that this is all normal. Dw is not eligible for any form of HRT. The cramping can go for many months [even years], it is normal. The tests show there is no cancer, so there is no serious medical issue. The only possible next step would be to cauterize the lining of her uterus. But so far nothing indicates that she needs a hysterectomy. Just wait for the GYN check-up in December, but unless something changes there will not be anything they can do.


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