Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

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Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:16 pm

I'm wondering if anybody here is taking Bio-identical hormone replacement therapy for Peri-menopausal symptoms.

I'm really struggling with waking up at night and not being able to go back to sleep (despite sleep medication), mood swings/rage, and vaginal dryness. I also feel fatigued and lack motivation to exercise or make better food choices which I believe would probably help a lot. I just can't seem to make myself follow through. I don't believe I'm depressed which would have been my first guess. I really don't want to go on an antidepressant that will likely make me gain weight and may make the sweating worse. :shock:

My doctor is reluctant to try conventional HRT so she prescribed Effexor and and estrogen cream. I had to stop the Effexor because it made me so nauseated I thought I had a stomach virus. The cream is just a mess unless it's used at night. I rarely use it because I don't want it in if we're going to ML and my husband was a bit grossed out when he saw me use it. (I really don't get that, but it is what it is).

A friend recommended bio-identical HRT. She said they have been a lifesaver for her. I'm all for that, but it will cost nearly $1,000. to get started and then $50. to $100. a month for the hormones. I don't want to sink all that money into something that will only make a marginal difference.

Anybody want to share their experience?
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby SeekingChange » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:27 pm

Have you looked into essential oils? That's what my sister uses.
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:28 pm

Nope, are they topical or ingested?
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Postby SeekingChange » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:34 pm

She uses them topically. She also grinds flax seed daily to eat to help some kind of symptoms. I don't know details, I have just told her to take notes and learn so she has all the answers for me when I need them. :D
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:43 pm

SeekingChange wrote: I have just told her to take notes and learn so she has all the answers for me when I need them. :D


::rotfl

I'll see what I can find out online. I'm also interested because they look at all your hormones. Someone, I think here, mentioned difficulty losing weight because their thyroid wasn't "optimized". That really made me wonder because when I was in my 20's I worked out an hour a day doing step aerobics and toning exercises, ate a low-fat diet and just couldn't seem to lose much weight at all. Of course that hasn't gotten easier now that I'm almost 50.

It would be worth the money if I could see some improvement in addition to feeling some improvement. :wink:
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby spiritfire777 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:03 pm

I do DIMM plus.. and progesterone cream at night..

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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:21 pm

spiritfire777 wrote:I do DIMM plus.. and progesterone cream at night..

Is DIMM an OTC medication or supplement? Is the progesterone cream a daily medication?

Do you any problems with typical peri-menopausal symptoms?

Thanks for sharing. :)
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Postby hisadored » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:42 pm

You didn't specify whether your doctor specializes in gynecology or is a family practice doctor. I would recommend going to a gynecologist because he or she will be knowledgeable about the latest studies, etc. regarding hormone replacement. I was experiencing sleep disturbances, short term memory loss, depression, loss of lubrication (all over my body!), and tingling in my arms. All because of low estrogen! I take estradiol (a prescription estrogen which is cheap!) and now I feel great!

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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:40 am

hisadored wrote:You didn't specify whether your doctor specializes in gynecology or is a family practice doctor.

She's an internist. I did get the estrogen cream, but rarely use it. My understanding is that it's localized for vaginal dryness and will do little for all the symptoms. I also have the memory problems, but forgot to mention that. ;)
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby StrawberryBlonde » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:06 am

A friend of mine with perimenopause uses a product she buys at her local grocery store and she swears by it. It's a box of tablets, one kind for daytime and another for night use, 30 of each per box. Its brand name is Enzymatic, and the box says
AM/PM PeriMenopause Formula. It contains herbal stuff like black cohosh and other things that are known for that kind of relief. At $15-20 a box, it's worth trying.

Something else you might try is bio-identical progesterone cream, which is rubbed in to the wrist or inside the arms or thighs, NOT internally, and is used cyclically. You start out with 1/8 tsp daily (which days depends on your cycle) and increase as needed. I don't really understand why women who are prescribed estrogen have good success with progesterone, but I know several women who think this stuff is a miracle.

There is a great book, What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause, by John Lee. Even if you don't get into all the detailed medical stuff he talks about, it is a big eye-opener to why the accepted medical advice on this stage of life is, in fact, accepted.

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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:48 am

Thank you for the advice KJBLady. :) I will check out that book. I like the idea of a cream that goes on the wrist instead.
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Blovesme » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:44 pm

I just got pellet bioidentical hormones and they are awesome! I had 2 friends tell me about them and both had awesome experiences. They are implanted in my buttocks. I don't even know they are there.

I have had them almost 3 weeks now. About a week ago, my head clear from the foggy state I was in. My energy started coming back. I just felt good for the first time in years.

They cost $300 and last 4-6 months. They are called sottopelle, if you want to research them.

I used topical and oral bioidentical hormones in the past and they did nothing. They were estrogen and progesterone. These pellets are estrodiol and testosterone.

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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:15 pm

Hey, thanks. That sounds really helpful and easy. :)
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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Unfulfilled » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:12 pm

What I have read is to stay away from and avoid any and all the synthetic sex hormones bespectacled synthetic progesterone and estrogen. Both are different than your natural body's hormones. Do not work as well and have side effects and potential other longer term health problems.

All or almost every one of these problems with the synthetics are eliminated with bioidentical hormones.

It was probably me you heard about optimized thyroid hormone leva. We can PM cor more details as I have been deep I study of thyroid for several years.

Some common symptoms of low thyroid are fatigue, yet being dead tired will call asleep in as ones but cannot stay asleep and do not get restful sleep. Dry skin, hair loss, cold intolerance depression and anxiety weight two and inability to lose weight despite diet and excercise. And many more.

You need to have more tests tha. The useless TSH test which is what most dr will only test for. This test is keeping Many, many people sick becuse the test is worthless yet is used almost exclusively by Drs as the gold standard.

The FDA prohibits any over the counter sale of any supplement that has a measurable amount of hormone content in it. Therefore if you are truly low on hormone, you can ONLY get it through a prescription.

While herbs and natural supplements and citamins can help a lot of things. They won't do sqwat for hormones without a prescription.

My DW is still battling low thyroid. And she is low T but the dr will not even consider any HRT for testosterone until the thyroid balance is worked out. Meanwhile DW has less than zero libido or interest in sex and been fightif this and Drs for literally years! Hence my deep study into thyroid.

Our oldest daughter also has low thyroid. As DW mother and my mother as well. So there is definately thyroid genetics to consider as well.

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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby spiritfire777 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:09 pm

Hiswifeagain wrote: Is DIMM an OTC medication or supplement? Is the progesterone cream a daily medication?

Do you any problems with typical peri-menopausal symptoms?

Dimm is bought over counter.. I get mine on the net... its actually bunches of cruciferous veggies in a capsule... REALLY helps with excess estrogens in my system, I do this every morning with my vitamin..... progesterone cream is a cream I put on at night.. it rubs right in for me and my body soaks it right up.. it helps for the hot flashes and nasty symptoms I get from being estrogen dominant.. you have to cycle the cream though.. cant do it every single day.. I do 15 days on and 15 off... I still get no periods but the symptoms are gone!.. oh and I use maca in between... I have never had anything bad as far as side effects... and since I refuse to get prescription drugs.. this works fine for me... its not true that you MUST have a docs script... sorry its just NOT.. it Does have progesterone in the cream, but you have to use a very small amount and work up to what you need.. lucky for me, I don't need much to gain control over bad symptoms.. :)

I used to use black cohash... got it in estroven over the counter.. but after a year it gave me some nasty black dark periods that HURT! after stopping the stuff I was fine...

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Re: Bio-identical HRT for Perimenopausal symptoms

Postby Hiswifeagain » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:56 am

Thanks you guys, this is all helpful.
My dh is in favor of checking out the bio-identical specialist in spite of the cost because he's nervous about me using something synthetic.

@UF, I'll PM you later today about the thyroid stuff.

I'm really thankful to be part of such an awesome community. :)
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