Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated yet again]

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Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated yet again]

Postby C_Brown » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:16 pm

DW is in perimenopause, and I know that means some variation in her period and we've had that, but this time she started her period two and half weeks ago with no end in sight. It started weak and the last 9 days have been heavy days for her. This seems a little extreme to me and I'm concerned, she keeps brushing it off as normal for this stage of life. Oh, it also started nearly 2 weeks later than it should have.

If this is not normal, how serious is it? Could it be something that can be controlled via HRT, or might she need an operation? I did finaly twist her arm into making an appointment with the doctor, but that isn't until Thursday.
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Postby SeekingChange » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:40 pm

It sounds normal to me from those around me going through it, but I don't have personal experience so take what I say lightly.
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Re: Worried about DW

Postby seeking perspective » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:10 pm

It is a normal part of perimenopause to go off schedule as well as have super-long periods. I have a friend who just had one for three weeks straight. She may want to see her doctor just to be sure she isn't experiencing anemia.
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Re: Worried about DW

Postby ahraysee » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:12 pm

It may be common but that doesn't mean it is healthy and a normal part of life. My mom had very heavy periods during menopause and she eventually was diagnosed with some health issues, specifically endometriosis and polyps I believe. I don't remember the specifics, but she must get checked out by a doctor before thinking it's just part of life. Maybe she's fine, but others with her same symptoms have not been fine, and it's best to rule those things out fast.

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Postby txtwindad » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:18 pm

Is she seeing a bioidentical hormone specialist? It is probably normal, her body's hormone production is out of whack as it is preparing to stop functioning. Those symptoms are likely treatable though with a little hormone assistance.
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Postby C_Brown » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:04 pm

txtwindad wrote:Is she seeing a bioidentical hormone specialist?


No, not even sure if there is anyone like that around. If there is, we would likely need a a referral from the GP and then have to wait several months for an appointment.
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Re: Worried about DW

Postby StrawberryBlonde » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:49 pm

While all the websites recommend seeing a professional for symptoms like this, and probably for good reason, I didn't.

I had similar symptoms: heavy bleeding for way too long, periods that lasted for up to six weeks, flooding, erratic numbers of days between periods. I started keeping records on a small calendar, because I figured at some point I was going to have to see a doctor. I never did do that; eventually they got lighter and farther apart. For probably two years I had no two periods alike.

I am not sharing this to suggest that I had it worse, but to assure you that it IS normal, or at least common. I don't know if women have always had it like this, or if all the estradiols in our environment are contributing to it. I expected to follow my mom's history, as I did with pregnancy, but my experience has been nothing like hers.

Having said all that, there are some serious conditions that are indicated by heavy bleeding, so seeing a doctor might give you both some peace of mind. My own experience with doctors so far is that they just give me more things to worry about. :?

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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause)

Postby mamame » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:48 am

I wouldn't see a doctor unless it becomes a regular thing.

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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause)

Postby C_Brown » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:12 am

Thanks all, the Dr said much the same as you all. She is getting blood work done and an ultrasound, will likely start HRT.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause)

Postby C_Brown » Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:19 pm

Progesterone seems to be doing the trick. Her period has stopped and from the time she started taking it to now is about how long that usually is for her. Thanks for the input everybody.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated]

Postby C_Brown » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:10 pm

This is nuts. Since Feb 22 she has only had two separate one week cases of not bleeding. The ultrasound showed nothing amiss. The Progesterone doesn't seem to be doing much anymore. The Dr put her on another medication to help stop the bleeding but it was a 4 day thing and didn't have any effect. We are waiting for a call back from a OB-GYN for an appointment, no ideal how long she will have to wait for that.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated]

Postby C_Brown » Tue May 19, 2015 10:10 pm

My DW is till spending about 50% or more of her time with some level of flow, but at least she has lost a lot of her squeamishness over being intimate on light days. She saw the OB-GYN today and discussed the situation. They took a biopsy and if everything is normal she will get a Mirena IUD. It is the lease invasive option and my insurance will cover it since it is for excessive bleeding rather than contraception. She is hoping to luck out and have it totally stop her from having periods, she is so done with it.

If there is something abnormal she will likely get a hysterectomy which we really hope is not the case. We should have the results in 2 weeks.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated again]

Postby IM_a_Farmwife » Wed May 20, 2015 3:35 am

I'm praying for your DW right now. I can understand why she is "so done with it". I'm kind of in that stage right now. We engage in PIV regardless of my bleeding. It just requires placing towels on the bed. I rarely have bad cramping or bloating, therefore no discomfort. I pray that everything will be okay with your DW. May the power of God touch your wife right now with His healing, making the surgery unnecessary. I'm praying for a miracle, in the name of Jesus. Amen.

Just a side note... as I am praying for your DW, I am experiencing one of the most beautiful sunrises that God as created. It's filled with lovely colors of pink and orange and blue with purple. Thank you, Lord, for Your sunrises and for everything that You provide for us.

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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated again]

Postby C_Brown » Wed May 20, 2015 6:41 am

IM_a_Farmwife wrote:I'm praying for your DW right now. I can understand why she is "so done with it".


Her periods are pretty hard on her. Lots of bad cramping, heavy bleeding, headaches, no energy. She usually takes at least one 'girl day' where she just stays in bed and copes with it. If a genie gave her 3 wishes, I'm pretty sure that never having a period again would be one of them.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated again]

Postby InGodsGrace » Wed May 20, 2015 1:36 pm

My sister had an ablation a year ago. Hasn't had a period since. No nasty hormones like with an IUD.

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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated again]

Postby C_Brown » Thu May 21, 2015 10:57 pm

InGodsGrace wrote:My sister had an ablation a year ago. Hasn't had a period since. No nasty hormones like with an IUD.


If she has nasty side effects we'll probably do that, but the IUD is less invasive so DW wants to go with that. She did have some unpleasant side effects when she used the pill, but this isn't the same. We know what to watch out for.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated again]

Postby mamame » Sat May 23, 2015 5:05 am

I would also encourage ablation over iud. Mirena is less effective for dysmennorhea with more side effects.

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Re: Worried about DW

Postby ledgemoor » Sun May 24, 2015 6:52 am

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txtwindad wrote:Is she seeing a bioidentical hormone specialist?

No, not even sure if there is anyone like that around. If there is, we would likely need a a referral from the GP and then have to wait several months for an appointment.

Are you in the USA? You don't need a referral. You can find a bHRT specialist at http://www.a4m.com. They are calling in "life extension medicine" now for marketing reasons and because hormones affect so much more than sexual well-being.

It would be a good idea to see one. Your typical OBGYN isn't going to be as knowledgeable about hormones as a bHRT doctor, and is ill-equipped to handle difficult cases such as your wife's, and mine. Perhaps ablation etc. can be avoided. If she still needs that, keep in mind that the bleeding is caused by hormone problems, and while the ablation will stop or at least limit that, it won't address the underlying problem. And unlike treating it with bcp or IUD, bHRT's goal is to normalize her hormones, and therefore should have NO side effects, and in fact will improve her health in other areas.

If the biopsy comes back as cancerous (as happened to my wife), you will definitely need a bHRT doctor. She will need a hysterectomy. They will probably take her ovaries, or if not their function will probably be compromised. Don't wait until after the hysterectomy and for things to get really bad to seet with a bHRT doctor like we did. Consult with him beforehand and come up with a plan for hormone treatment after the hysterectomy.

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Postby C_Brown » Sun May 24, 2015 2:20 pm

I'm in Canada so my options are limited. She is orally taking progesterone now without side effects, and it is helping. With the IUD it will pretty much the same thing, just a lower dose right at the source where it is needed so she doesn't expect problems. I would rather she had an an ablation but she would rather go with the least invasive method first, and if there is a problem then consider other options.
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Re: Worried about DW (perimenopause) [updated again]

Postby ledgemoor » Sun May 24, 2015 5:50 pm

Ok, progesterone is the right thing to do. That's what DW was taking, and it ALMOST solved the bleeding problem. The last little bit of bleeding wouldn't go away, so that's why they suspected cancer.

Is the taking the progesterone orally or via cream? Cream is the best. It is absorbed the best. Oral is hard on the liver. Here you can get it over the counter at GNC which you have up there. It isn't expensive. Select a brand that tells you how many mg/teaspoon or whatever so she can measure and adjust her dosage.

http://www.canadabioidenticaldoctors.com/

Can you go to a bHRT doctor if you pay out-of-pocket? DW and I both go. That's how I got hooked up with testosterone. The lab tests are what gets expensive, especially for women. The doctor's bill and the hormones themselves aren't too bad.
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